Tuesday, May 7, 2013

Frustration Calling Metro Transit Cops

From Josh:
This past Friday morning, while passing the Naylor Road station, I noticed something was up.

 Four, twenty-something ladies had another twenty-something lady encircled.  It appeared they all knew each other, and their discussion was becoming more volatile. 

As I passed the group, it became more physical with the women pulling each others' hair.  Since Metro is always saying "see something, say something," I called the WMATA police on (202) 962-2121.

After 30 seconds of ringing, I hung up and checked the number.

I called again and waited for another minute before the operator finally took my call and sent an officer.

In the normal world, if you need help, you can call the police by dialing the universally easy to remember number--911.  By calling 911 from your cell phone, the police can locate you using the enhanced 911 service.

In the WMATA world, you call a number that is difficult to remember.  If WMATA bothers to answer the phone in time, they would not have access to your GPS coordinates because your phone does not know the number you dialed belongs to the police.

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At West Virginia University the university police had a special number to contact them similar to metro police and 911 would get you the city. But even they were smart enough to realize that a random string of numbers is hard to remember and used 293-COPS. The 293 is the start of all university phone numbers. So it was really easy. So easy in fact that after 10 years I still remember it.
In those 10 years I have been riding metro and don't know their number.
1 reply · active 619 weeks ago
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rotaryCellPhone · 619 weeks ago

The closest thing to memorable (for me) is: 202-WMA-2121
(Still, not memorable)
http://labrocca.com/phone/

It's not very hard to get a custom number...
The minute cost would be better spent than however much PR that'll buy. You could even play a memorable MTPD number as PR.
Metro has police? ;)
AND Metro police's phone number is not displayed prominently anywhere in the stations or cars, either.
4 replies · active 619 weeks ago
It sometimes gets garbled over the loudspeaker system in stations. Not that anyone would remember it and it is not on trains where people would remember it. Actually, since Taborn left I do not think I have heard any announcements with the number.

Um, 301 .... something?

Reminds me of when they partly covered a suicide hotline number. In a place where people obviously need it given the multiple suicide-by-train incidents. Can we say doh?
You know, and this is such a Metro thing, they have these signs at the end of the platforms about suicide and "we can help" and so on, and the signs provide a hotline number.

The problem? There's no phone there. Now yes, lots and lots of people have cell phones. But if your intention is to save someone's life, and your method is to have them call you...should you not provide the means for them to do so?
Can you even get a signal?
You don't think that's by accident, do you?
I have always and will always continue to dial 911 in emergency situations - including on Metro. A 911 operator can tap into Metro police and dispatch from there - but I always think jurisdiction. Metro police have Metro, but Fairfax County, DC, PG County, etc. also have jurisdiction over Metro. I may be wrong on this, but 911 is much more easier to remember and they can determine the best resource for the given situation.
8 replies · active 620 weeks ago
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Metro Ryder · 620 weeks ago

I'm with you, I would call 911. First, I remember 911 and even though the metro number is in my phone in the event of an emergency I would probably forget it's there. Second, I am pretty sure 911 will answer the phone the first time I call. Lastly, 911 operators can prioritize and delegate as needed.
AT least calls to 911 are recorded... so if the 911 officer speeds dial MTPD, you have a recorded proof that it took MTPD 1,5 minutes to simply answer a phone call...
And just imagine, if one day MPD has to intervene in a metro station because they received a phone call and were not able to reach MTPD!
Also, speaking as someone who's had to work with MTPD after being assaulted a few years back, good luck getting anyone to work with you consistently, much less give a you-know-what. You're better off calling 911. They document calls and probably won't go, duh gee I dunno, when they answer the phone.

Just sayin.
No documents: no crime. No crime: better statistics...
Makes perfect sense to me...
True. We can't have Chief Taborn look like a slack-ass, now can we?
The 911 operator will speed dial you if they don't put you on hold: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Woman-Fig...
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Dave Alturd · 620 weeks ago

This is just another example of how public transportation and indeed metro is a much better alternative to driving to work.

Driving is inherently a passive activity with no mental rewards. Public transit works your brain and allows you to activate the part of your brain that processes memory

Besides, I see hair pulling every day when I drive to my job. Don't blame metro- blame angry customers who should instead be grateful for the service that metro provides.

I think instead of complaining about this, you should be applauding the fact that metro is making important decisions. Ask yourself: what's really important? The police number? Psshhh. Whatever. Metro has it's priorities straight and is focusing on things that matter: station feng shui.

Read my blog!: http://greatergreatergreaterwashington.org/
3 replies · active 620 weeks ago
Keep it up. I find your comments amusing, first of all. And second of all, its almost as amusing seeing Dave Alpert's fan club throw a fit everytime you post!
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David's Fan Club · 620 weeks ago

*Throws a fit*
You're no Stan Dessel.
The "comments" from "Dave" were mildly amusing the first few times, now they are just plain stupid...
5 replies · active 620 weeks ago
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Metro Ryder · 620 weeks ago

I never thought they were amusing. I wish "Dave" would find another hobby.
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Dave Alturd · 620 weeks ago

It's hard to take smeone who spells Rider as "Ryder" seriously.

Read my blog!: http://greatergreatergreaterwashington.org/
Another new fan of ggw here, thanks for providing the link!
Alpert's fan club really is getting their panties in a bunch over someone impersonating a Metro excuse making, smarmy douche. I find it amusing. Nobody is forcing you to read his comments.
I enjoy the comments. I like Stan Dessel ones too. Any attempt to poke fun at metro and the people involved with metro are appreciated by me.
It's going to end with someone getting killed because of a lack of response from WMATA and WMATA will be sued costing us all more.
1 reply · active 620 weeks ago
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Don't forget yesterday there was a man on the tracks and the MTPD took FOREVER to get there...
1 reply · active 620 weeks ago
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Concerned · 620 weeks ago

New motto: If you see something...you're f&8ked.
4 replies · active 619 weeks ago
"If you see something, you shouldn't have looked up from your I-Pad".
If you see something, DON'T say something to Metro employees. Call 911. Metro employees are just a waste of good air.
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hrh king friday 13 · 620 weeks ago

If you see something, you apparently believe in slavery.
if you see something...you're not minding your own business.
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InvalidnostCCCP · 620 weeks ago

Similarly, I was waiting for a train when a clearly inebriated fellow tried to enter the small space at the end of the platform leading into a tunnel. While another customer tried to stop him, I called Metro Police. Rang and rang, no one picked up. I called back twice more. No one ever picked up. And this was *immediately* after an announcement stating the phone number.
2 replies · active 620 weeks ago
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Metro Rider · 620 weeks ago

This happened once to me too. I witnessed a drunk man try to wander back into the tunnels. He'd also peed himself on the platform. Called the Metro police number three times; no one answered. He got on the next train arriving before we could get up to the station manager (this was at Rosslyn).
The first time I heard the canned PA announcement about calling metro police, I thought to myself—how the hell do I remember that? The next time I happened to hear it, I put it in my phone contacts; but, I already suck at gracefully navigating my iPhone, so during the chaos of an emergency situation, I'd surely open Angry Birds or something by accident, before frantically pulling up a bunch of the wrong contacts.

Later, I realized the mobile site (which instantly comes up in my browser when I tap 'w' in the url field) has the transit police number on the landing page. For me, learning this bit of info is helpful.

However, I concur with "Matt", 911 would be my first call in a imminently dangerous or life threatening situation. As a Sprint customer, this means that regardless of whether I dial 9-1-1 or call the transit police directly, I'm going to spend the last moments of my life filled with hatred for their shitty coverage.
I propose the transit police roll out a new emergency call service that uses 365, or 'FML'.
Just out of curiosity, what happens if you call 911? Don't you get the local police where you are? Can't you tell them to respond and they will either connect you to the metro police, respond themselves, or relay the request to metro police?
1 reply · active 620 weeks ago
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StanDessell · 620 weeks ago

After riding the train day in and day out - it all becomes engrained in your mind.

"Hello....is this your bag? These simple words......"

"In the event of an emergency just dail 202-962....."

Over and over they repeat. Day in and day out. Soemone stop the madness
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Stan Dessel · 620 weeks ago

C'mon guys. It's easy to remember. They're all even numbers except for the 1s and the 9.

You're welcome!
Jim, they're at the stations. But they're too busy talking and gossipping, to really give a damn about what happens to us. Too often at Rosslyn, I see them standing around near the escalators, looking bored. Gee guys, sorry we're making you work. *end snark*
Jim, they're bored because they find real work boring. Heaven forbid that you flag them down for something, they're too busy being bored and flapping their gums. They're useless. They're not good cops.
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Metro Ryder · 620 weeks ago

They also like to stand in areas where they can check out chicks's asses. The stand and gossip and ogle.
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helpwmata · 620 weeks ago

The main issue with MTPD is not the officers but to many higher ranking officials that are over paid and sit on there ass all day in nice officed and why does MTPD have one largest K-9 units, have seen an K-9 let loose underground subway to chase an person whom commits an crime??????? No
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hans gruber · 619 weeks ago

Here are some other small words that mean so much:
''In service.''

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