
Unsuck reached out to Bruce Schneier who, according to his website, is "an internationally renowned security technologist and author. Described by The Economist as a 'security guru,' he is best known as a refreshingly candid and lucid security critic and commentator. When people want to know how security really works, they turn to Schneier."
He wrote about random bag searches on his blog back in 2005, when the New York subway implemented them. Below is an excerpt from his post. He said in an email he'd not changed his opinion.
It's another "movie plot threat." It's another "public relations security system." It's a waste of money, it substantially reduces our liberties, and it won't make us any safer.Other items:
Final note: I often get comments along the lines of "Stop criticizing stuff; tell us what we should do." My answer is always the same. Counterterrorism is most effective when it doesn't make arbitrary assumptions about the terrorists' plans. Stop searching bags on the subways, and spend the money on 1) intelligence and investigation -- stopping the terrorists regardless of what their plans are, and 2) emergency response -- lessening the impact of a terrorist attack, regardless of what the plans are. Countermeasures that defend against particular targets, or assume particular tactics, or cause the terrorists to make insignificant modifications in their plans, or that surveil the entire population looking for the few terrorists, are largely not worth it.
Metro to spend $1.2 million on guerrilla marketing (Examiner)
Board forms committee (Examiner)
Board members whine (WaPo)
Wonder how much stuff like this goes on (Washington Times)
Alert operator saves life (Examiner)
Corresponding Toads · 744 weeks ago
@buzcajun · 744 weeks ago
At Metro, there is no shortage of horror movie fodder . . .
F'n JD · 744 weeks ago
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F'n JD · 744 weeks ago
Semi-public, my bad. But I'm willing to push the issue.
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Guest · 744 weeks ago
But seriously, what are they going to do if you walk on by and pretend not to hear them? Tackle you?
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Corresponding Toads · 744 weeks ago
thanks for the slam dunk!
dunk slammin and space jammin,
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dan · 744 weeks ago
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F'n JD · 744 weeks ago
"In 1966, a bill creating WMATA was passed by the federal government, the District of Columbia, Virginia, and Maryland,[8] with planning power for the system being transferred to it from the NCTA.[9]"
Again, a federally created transit agency is a public transit agency and system, hence public.
Sam · 744 weeks ago
Publicly owned does not mean publicly open.
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dan · 744 weeks ago
Terrorist #1: “Alright Yusuf, go inside and call me if they’re doing bag checks.”
Terrorist #2: “Yeah, it looks like they are.”
Terrorist #1: “That’s alright, we’ll just drive to the next one.”
It doesn't even give the illusion of security; it exudes the reality of the pitiful times we have the misfortune of living in.
VeggieTart · 744 weeks ago
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Anon · 744 weeks ago
"At Braddock Metro, one man was stopped for about 8 minutes because there was some sort of chemical substance on his bag. Police X-rayed the bag and went through it, finding nothing. They also took his his identification and questioned him.
Another woman, who did not object to the bag screening, was stopped for 45 seconds. She missed her train as her bag of Christmas presents was searched. "
DO NOT wash your tote bags!. "Household chemicals" are a bad bad thing. I just wonder how much of that first delay was because the "inspector" wore his work gloves which might have been tainted from his own use?
@kara_h · 744 weeks ago
If washing gives off a false positive maybe everyone should do that all the time. If the majority of searches lead to an alarm they will (hopefully) realize the searches are pointless.
Then again, knowing metro ...
Anon · 744 weeks ago
JoeyB · 744 weeks ago
(like last week, some kid lit a blunt on the train) i m more concerned about that type of nonsense than worrying about the boogie-terrorist man
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capitalspirit 62p · 744 weeks ago
It's clearly not serious about catching bad guys. If it were, there would be far more inspections at every single station, at all times--not just an hour of inspections here and there at one or two stations.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: even if you inspected one bag of every three in the system, at all times, the bad guys luck out 66% of the time. Metro's not even doing THAT much, so the bad guys luck out even more often. So what are we up to? 75% in favor of the bad guys? 80? Worse than that? So this cannot be a serious effort to catch bad guys. If that really is the designed serious purpose--which I doubt--then Metro needs to either step it up dramatically, or bring the curtain down on this theater.
I don't think that's the serious purpose here, though. Honestly, I don't. I think the serious purpose here is to get us all conditioned to police state tactics.
What else can it be? The purpose cannot seriously be to catch bad guys, or the searches would be system-wide, and constant. Anything less than that, and it cannot catch bad guys, BY DESIGN. To be effective, a bag search program would have to be quite vast. Metro's effort here doesn't even seem to rise to the level of half vast.
Now, if I'm wrong about this--which I hope I am--and whoever came up with this half-baked idea sincerely thought that this would be an effective way to stop terrorists, they need to be let go for gross incompetence.
The only serious purpose I can see being accomplished here, is getting Metro riders accustomed to surrendering their freedom.
@kara_h · 744 weeks ago
It is sort of like the security theatre the TSA does at airports. That is a tougher security than metro's but it has some pretty gaping holes.
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Corresponding Toads · 744 weeks ago
RANDOM SEARCH BY METRO POLICE THWARTS APPARENT BOMBING ATTEMPT
Don't believe a word of it.
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Xmas and On-Anon · 744 weeks ago
Happy Holidays Unsuck and to my fellow readers!
Anon · 744 weeks ago
Happy Holiday's also Unsuck and thank you for your constant inquires which assist public safety!
A GREAT Work that you do!
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GDopplerXT · 743 weeks ago
Note the part where it says "we patrol subways with our law enforcement partners".
annoyed · 743 weeks ago
1. Are they still doing these nonsense bag checks?
2. If you bring a small purse are they going to stop and harass you over that if your number comes up?
3. Is there a place to find out if the fascists have shown up to do bag checks at your metro stations of choice?
Dave · 712 weeks ago