Monday, July 30, 2012

Bye Metro


Via West Falls Steve:
My wife and I have been living about a mile from the West Falls Church Metro for about a year. At first, I was the only Metro commuter, but she got a job in the District this spring, and we started Metro-ing together.

Sometimes we'd walk to the Metro, sometimes we'd bike, sometimes we'd park'n'ride.

If we parked, the total cost was about $18 a day prior to the fare increases, now it's a whopping $19.75 with two rush hour round trips and parking.

So, in June, we started to get fed up with hot cars, delays, offloads, you know, all the standard Metro operating procedures.

I'm a big supporter of mass transit, so I deal with these problems begrudgingly. My wife is too, but she has less of a tolerance for jerky rides and being late to work (luckily my hours are flexible). So she started saying "let's drive."

I agreed to experiment, thinking I'd prove her wrong, and even though Metro is unreliable, I thought driving would be worse.

So, for the past few weeks we've driven in on 66, sailing gloriously along as we legally meet the HOV-2 requirement.

Today, for example, we left the house at 8:10 a.m. and were in the parking garage at 8:26. 8:26!

Traffic is lighter on Fridays, but Monday-Thursday, add seven to 10 minutes to that time.

Metro takes a bare minimum of 20 minutes from West Falls Church to Farragut West, and that ignores getting to the station and train, and getting out of the station.

Her walk is no further to work from the garage, and mine is a bit further than from Metro, but I still get to work early.

In fact, we have time to hang out and get a coffee and actually talk and enjoy each others' company, rather than having our mornings ruined by Metro!

I guess we are a bit lucky, because our jobs our on the west side of downtown, so its easy to just hop on and off the E Street Expressway to get home.

Now, on a cost basis, the garage is $14 a day (and this is straight cash, we're paying for daily parking and aren't using federal parking benefits), valet service. The round trip is 22 miles, which, in our car, is probably about $2.50 worth of gas at current prices.

So, cheaper than parking at the Metro, and faster to boot.

If you want to be technical and say that I should be using the IRS depreciation measure for driving (includes gas and maintenance), $0.55 per mile or whatever it is this year, sure, it's a bit more expensive than Metro, but still faster. Also, we're making payments on the car - I'd rather put the damn thing to use than fork my money over to Metro.

So, I feel like a horrible person for polluting and reducing the region's air quality and giving everyone's children asthma. But I feel like my sanity, time and money can override that. Metro just doesn't offer me the level of service and reliability to pay them just about the same amount of money to take up more of my time.

So, Metro, say goodbye to our 230 working days per year, at $19.75 per day (assuming we park and ride every day).

Say goodbye to that delicious $4,542.50 (holy sh*t).
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If you don't live close to a Metro station (i.e., you are taking a bus to the train), there is a good chance that driving is quicker (on average) even without HOV. That's because you have to wait for the bus, ride the bus while stopping for others, wait for the train, be delayed by the train, and then walk from Metro station to office as opposed to being in a garage that is likely closer to your work.

And if you can get HOV and share parking expenses like the OP, driving is going to be both cheaper and faster.
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hrh king friday 13 · 660 weeks ago

This is why it's bullsh*t when people say "I ride Metro becuase I support mass transit." Sure, it might make you feel good at first, but actually riding Metro does very little support public transit. Metro makes a mockery of a very noble cause.
3 replies · active 660 weeks ago
Yes, they do. When I moved here I had the impression there was a great transportation system. Which was a major draw for me since I can not drive for medical reasons. It was not too bad at first, but by the time it started REALLY slipping I had too many ties to the area to just pick up and move.
I am in the same boat. I have been riding metro since the beginning and it has really declined.

I guess for those of us who cannot drive it sucks less than an all bus system :(
I have been driving in from Chantilly for almost 2 years now, first to the Pentagon using 50 and then 66 after buying a hybird, and now into downtown. I was saving a boatload of money and time at the Pentagon (free parking) and a 45 minute drive on a bad day, vs about 55 on a "perfect metro day." I have to pay $9 to park now, which is about what my out of pocket would be for Metro, but I save at least 20 minutes driving. I don't see going back to Metro any time soon, I should have kids before they end the hybrid exemption and my office has a daycare center, is it wrong to use your children as your extra people in the HOV lanes?
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Bitter Brew · 660 weeks ago

July and August are the months when driving times to downtown are the shortest -- and the Metro experience is often at its most miserable. That easy trip across the TR bridge can become a long backup that begins a mile or more west of Rosslyn on 66. That's the reason many of us are reluctant to trade in our Metro subsidies in exchange for a release from Metro's maddening mistreatment of passengers, incompetence, unreliability, and hassle.
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I personally don't care about sitting in some traffic - it's better to sit in the comfort of my air conditioned car while not moving then a non-air conditioned Metro car whilst smelling others lack of personal hygiene and not moving. It's all about the cost for me - to save money I would need a parking garage for less than $216 a month. That doesn't exist near me. In the end, I'm looking to change jobs so I don't have to use Metro. Public transportation should not effect one's career choices.
Good point, BB. I actually spend more time on the Fairfax Connector than I spend on Metrorail, and today's 25-minute commute had me wondering why I bother using my multi-modal method (normally 70 minutes) in the summer. But all it takes is one rainy day (like we've had one this month, and misty cool days don't count) or something happening on I-66 and/or the Toll Road to remind me why it's nicer for someone else to be dealing with the driving in taking me to work, especially during the school year.

Having said that, it's painful to give money to Metro for their "service."
I commute from Fair Oaks to Navy Yard each day. My commute on Metro each way is one and a half hours for a total of 3 hours each day including bus and walking. On days that I drive in I take 66 before it turns to HOV only and get to work in about 40-45 minutes. On the way home I can't take 66 so I take 395 to 495 to 66 and my commute takes about an hour to an hour and 10 minutes. Driving takes at worst 1 hour and 55 minutes each day and saves me 1 hour and 5 minutes each day. I continue to take Metro only because my wife and I share 1 car.
Hey congrats! Welcome to the club of "live less than a mile from station and drive in". Like you, I wanted to support mass transit, but the reliability concerns scuttled that well before we did the math and realized how much we were saving cost-wise. Up to $5.50/gallon for fuel we'll still come out ahead on pure economic terms, and then after that we have to take into account how much we value our time.

One suggestion: start offering neighbors who work around your work an option to commute in. I've done so since a number of people who work for my company live around my neighborhood, and while I don't make any money on it, it buys a lot of goodwill.

Congrats! :)
3 replies · active 659 weeks ago
I live two blocks from a Metro station...also four miles from work but I have to go Clarendon->Rosslyn->Pentagon City so of course it can take over half an hour thanks to Rush "+" decimating the Blue Line. I also have an ART bus that stops right on my corner and drops me a block from work in about 15 minutes, but if you miss the bus it can be 20-30 minutes between buses.

Despite all this I'm seriously considering just saving up for a Vespa. And sometimes I bike over--takes about the same amount of time as Metro from having to stop and wait to cross Arlington Blvd, and then stopping and showing ID at Ft. Myer, but at least I get my day's exercise in that way.
Clarendon to Pentagon City would basically be an all downhill bike ride on the way to work in the morning, and will probably be able to be done in 15 min (w/o even entering Ft Myer/Henderson Hall) once the Wash Blvd / Col Pike bridge intersection work is complete. (right now would probably be closer to a half hour, though)
Ever since the Blue Line cuts thanks to Rush "+", my new favorite Metro thing is having the Orange Line get me to Rosslyn just in time to see the Franconia bound train pull out of the station, adding a nice twelve minutes to my commute. During which I get to see multiple practically empty Vienna bound trains go by. Did it seriously never occur to Metro to send some of the Vienna bound trains to Franconia instead? Run the trains to Rosslyn like normal and then turn them towards Franconia.

But I guess the fact that this makes sense and be efficient is my explanation for why Metro didn't do it.
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wmatangst · 660 weeks ago

They're prepping for the Silver Line. They're trying to get people used to fewer BL trains going through that tunnel because when they open up the Silver Line, OR will blow up. That's the future use for those empty cars.

That's why, no matter how much people bitch and moan about Rush+, I'm willing to bet my eye teeth that WMATA won't change anything, at least until after the SL opens. Then if it works, they'll get to say HA LOOK WE TOLDJA SO. If it doesn't, then... well... people are probably used to it anyway.
I understand that it's Silver Line prep but in rush hour situations where two or more Orange line trains are heading to Vienna they could still do my proposal...then just start doing it with the Silver Line once it comes online.
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DC Denizen · 660 weeks ago

I pay about $5 more per day to park in my building (plus vehicle gas/mileage) over what I was paying to Metro last year. It hurts, I'm not gonna lie. And since I commute so early, I can't find a neighbor to carpool with. So I'm one of those awful lone drivers. BUT it saves me over an hour a day in my time, since I don't have to drive to the Metro station, switch trains, suffer delays, hot cars, and the other various indignities of Metro... So I'm happy to eat that extra cash, just to keep myself sane. I still Metro occasionally for special events, but I am a much happier person now that I drive instead of using Metro.
During the Summer and Fall, I completely abandon Metro for the W&OD bike trail, and bike from Vienna to just East of the White House. According to my Garmin data, from West Falls Church to Farragut takes me about 28 minutes -- and that includes stopping at traffic lights. Hop on the bike and put some of that money into your pocket!
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Bitter Brew · 660 weeks ago

You're a faster biker than I -- I've tried WFC to the Capitol, and it takes me about 45 minutes. And for whatever reason, I find it takes me a lot longer to shower, dress, and be presentable in the office locker room (at least we have one) than at home. But glad it works for you!
"And for whatever reason, I find it takes me a lot longer to shower, dress, and be presentable in the office locker room (at least we have one) than at home."

I have the same problem, I think it's just because you have to put everything away before you leave the locker room.
Both observations are certainly fair, but my experience has been that my 'clean up' upon arriving at the office takes about the same amount of time (if not less) at the office as it does at home. Plus, with Metro's 'hot-car' situation, a lot of Metro commuters arrive at the office (or home) hot & sweaty without the benefit of having gotten some exercise!
Ha, I am part of this club now too. I bought a car last week and dumped metro, even though I live 1/2 mile from a metro station. My bigger issue was that I couldn't stomach metro nights/weekends any longer. Sorry, environment - I really tried!
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anonymous · 660 weeks ago

We live in Alexandria at Van Dorn. There is never parking there so we have to haul our cookies to Franconia if we want to metro. We get subsidy but only from Van Dorn. We pay parking out of pocket. There is not a single day that we ride that we are not late and I don't even transfer trains!! My boyfriend transfers twice and is always at least 30 mins behind. We started driving more and more and getting to work earlier and earlier that way. Screw metro! I have to use my earned leave when they mess up and I leave my house on time. It's always dreadful service and unexplained delays. The last charge increase pushed us over and we got a monthly parking pass to drive to DC. For an area that wants people to use mass transit they make it so inconvenient and unusable for us in the suburbs so why bother? We're done.
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anonymous · 660 weeks ago

If there is not a "single day that [you] are not late," may I suggest leaving the house earlier?
As horrible as Metro can be, it's still (unfortunately) a better commute for me than driving. College Park to Union Station would probably be a very lousy, slow drive (I haven't tried it, but I've seen what the traffic is like on most routes into the city.) Plus, I'm a contractor, so I would have to find and pay for my own parking.
I'm all in favor of people quitting Metro. It's a ripoff. Why would anyone WANT to pay for a rip off. Mass transit is supposed to be affordable and somewhat reliable. Metro is neither.

I think Metro is going to have to get worse before it gets better. Right now, no one with any real influence cares enough to effect the kind of change Metro needs, namely a board that is accountable to riders. Maybe if that were to change, some of the other stuff would fall into place.

Metro is a failure.
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Stephanie · 660 weeks ago

Hey UnSuck...ever considered starting a carpool organizing thread here? I have found the other sites to not be very useful, but as someone on the 66 corridor...I would be happy to join a carpool for the days I go in - and I'm a VRE commuter since I quit metro.
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On an earlier post, someone has posted a link to a website that I believe helps find carpools.

Anyone remember what that was?

I found using Google, but am not sure it was the one mentioned.
http://www.erideshare.com/
There's Commuter Connections:
http://www.mwcog.org/commuter2/

Click on Commuter Programs and follow the Ridesharing link.

In that previous thread I had suggested NuRide:
http://www.nuride.com

It also has a ridesharing program, but the main benefit is that NuRide offers rewards for any method that a person uses to not drive alone. It even counts cycling!
taking the bus is so much better; the 79 is an express so for the price of a regular bus fare you make fewer stops that would be at least twice as much on the train going the same route.
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DC Denizen · 660 weeks ago

Unfortunately for those of us in the suburbs, it's generally rail or nothing. The first bus leaves my neighborhood at 6:45. I have to be at work by 6. D'oh!
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Bitter Brew · 660 weeks ago

Things Dr. Gridlock doesn't know, and has never bothered to find out, part 246 (from today's chat):
I think the operator can't always tell which car is having the door problem. Part of the reason I think that is from being aboard trains where the operator asks us if we can see a door that isn't closing
I have two part-time jobs, one in downtown DC and one in Old Town Alexandria, coming in from the back end of Reston. Days that I am in Old Town, my partner and I drive in - take my car, I drop him at his office in Crystal City, then I drive the three miles to my work. Since he has to be at work at 8AM, we miss the worst of the traffic on 66. It routinely takes us 40 minutes to get from Reston --> CC, then less than another 10 mins for me to get to Old Town.
I moved to Washington, DC in 1985. Took Metro each day, Van Ness to Dupont Circle and back, and then Van Ness to Union Station and back, for many years. Bought a place within working distance of Van Ness station because I wanted to continue using Metro. Experienced radically slightly declining quality of service starting in the late 90s and then radically declining quality of service around 2005. In 2009, I decided to try driving the 8 miles between home and work. Got incredibly cheap parking from my employer (about $70 a month) and never looked back. My driving time is more than it was on Metro in the 80s and 90s, but less than it was on Metro since 2005. I know all of my alternate route in case of traffic problems, and I sit in air conditioned comfort listening to satellite radio. I have absolutely no plans to give up driving, even if I have to pay market price for parking. I have so much less stress today than when I was using Metro.
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Enoch Emery · 660 weeks ago

"I sit in air conditioned comfort listening to satellite radio."

Let's not sugarcoat driving to work in DC. You have to deal with a-holes driving up past a line of cars and then putting their blinker on and blocking the next lane while waiting to be let in, bicyclists completely ignoring traffic rules, Metro, MTA, and Dillon's buses doing whatever they please, and cars in the right lane illegally stopping for three minutes to drop someone off rendering the lane useless.

If you live close enough and can get a $200/month discount on parking it's great, but let's not pretend driving in DC is a breeze. It can be just as frustrating as riding the Metro on a lot of days.
I lived in Greenbelt and commuted to a job in Ballston for two years; first year I took Metro; second year I drove.

It's a horrible commute, but on balance it was less stressful and less enraging driving than the Metro. It's the complete absence of control over your situation on Metro that is the psychological destroyer.
It's like Woody Allen said at the end of his famous movie (I think maybe it was Sleeper or Bananas), "We need the eggs."
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nativeson · 660 weeks ago

Yeah, it's summer. Just wait till September and you can tack on another 15 minutes to your commute. Trust me, it won't feel so good anymore.
Oh, and by the way?

On BART, they don't offer passes. It's farecards, the Clipper smart card(accepted by only 5 transit agencies), or jump the faregates.

Stop calling your system bad.
I take Metro 'cause it is healthier to walk to the Metro, walk in the Metro, stand on the trains, walk from the Metro downtown than sitting in a car struck in traffic. Carrying a computer adds weight so the exercise is therapy. I feel better week in and week out. You want obesity, drive. You want to try and stay fit, take the Metro. Read a book, read a Kindle, listen to some tunes on your IPod on the Metro; the benefits are self evident. You want to know that there is life beyond your own self absorption, take the Metro.
Just wanted to add my two cents. I live in Arlington, about a four minute walk to Courthouse and work in Bethesda, right next to the station. I actually metro it 90% of the time and it takes me about 40 minutes door to door. Prior to rush+, if I missed a train it might take closer to 50-55 minutes, but that never happens anymore. Coupled with the fact that the orange line trains are never as crowded as they once were, it's a much more pleasant experience.

If I were to drive, I could easily get on the GW parkway and be at my office in about 30 minutes on a good day or 40 on a bad day in the morning. The afternoons though involve 495 that can be hit or miss and usually takes 40-50 minutes. I do enjoy driving but can't stand being stuck in traffic. Since switching jobs a year ago (where I previously drove to various clients), I find myself much happier and less stressed with my commute.

Now comparing costs...I pay $7.80 a day for Metro which is half subsidized by work, so let's say $4.00 a day. In comparison parking is about $9.00 a day in Bethesda (it'd be about $7.00 a day if I had a monthly pass). Coupled with gas costing about $2.00 a day and I definitely come out ahead in terms of Metro. Especially since at best I save 10-15 minutes a day driving but at worst waste 10-15 minutes.

Now having said that, if I didn't live within a 5-10 minute walk of a metro station, I can't see how I'd continue to use it, unless it saved me significant time over driving, (doubtful though since driving+metro+walking).

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