Wednesday, May 2, 2012

Rider Claims Train was on Fire


From GlenmontGirl:
Last night, at approximately 6:30, I was passing through Metro Center on my way home from work. I was standing at the far end of the upper platform, waiting for a Red Line train to Glenmont.

A train to Silver Spring pulled into the station on the track closest to me. Shortly after that, I heard a Shady-Grove-bound train enter the station on the other track. Then, I heard several loud, metal-on-metal bangs.

I've never heard a train derail, but that was what I thought it was at first.

I looked around but couldn't figure out where the sound was coming from, since the Silver Spring train was blocking my view of the other platform. I didn't hear any screaming or any announcements from the train operator or station manager, so I reasoned it couldn't be that bad.

The Silver Spring train pulled out of the station and the other train looked fine - it was unloading and loading normally.

But as it started to pull away I noticed several spots of bright light under the front two or three cars, which I quickly realized were flames, A shower of bright orange sparks spewed from underneath the train as it moved out of the station.

After pausing for a moment to process the fact that, yes, the train was actually on fire, I hightailed it to the Metro Center station manager's booth. I looked for a Metro employee on the platform, but there wasn't one.

By the time I got to the station manager's booth, several other riders were already there, describing the incident to her.

I heard one of those women, who seemed to have been closer to the flaming cars than I was, say that it seemed to be the "loopy things that hang down on the bottom" (her words).

I can't confirm this, as I was too far away to see where exactly the flames were coming from.

The station manager assured us that the train would be taken out of service, and we all went our separate ways. I finished the rest of my commute without incident.

I've been taking most of the recent Metro safety issues in stride, since it's still the easiest way for me to get to work. But I have to say it was a little disconcerting to see a train with actual flames coming out from under it and to realize the riders on board had no idea anything was wrong.

I know there have been incidents with trains smoking or catching fire before, but do you know if this is an ongoing, consistent mechanical issue, kind of like the brake discs that were wearing out too quickly?

The loud bangs I heard initially made me wonder if there was something on the tracks that the train might have hit, but I saw another train pull in and out on that track after the damaged one, and there weren't any loud noises or sparks.

Could the brakes or something on the underside of the cars have ruptured/exploded as the train came into the station?

You or your sources at Metro would know much better than I, but this might be worth investigating.

Between the buses and the trains, Metro can't seem to keep the flames at bay. What next? Will Dan Stessel spontaneously combust during a press conference?
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I saw this too! I've seen Metro pop of a spark or two, but this was a TON of sparks and they continued to pour out from under the train the whole way down the track. I would have thought the train was dragging something, but there was no noise. Something was very wrong with that train.
A similar incident happened a few weeks ago on an early morning Blue Line train shortly after it had left Franconia Springfield. There was a very loud bang, a sharp jolt, and the few of us on the train looked at each other, but not hearing any announcement from the conductor, we stayed in our seats.

Very little surprises me any more when riding Metro. I just expect to have to navigate around the daily problems of failing equipment, delays, unhelpful employees, etc. The Franconia Springfield garage has been under renovation for years, and you never know from day to day when they will block off another section for work. It's about a year or year and a half behind schedule already.
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DC Denizen · 673 weeks ago

Sarles gave up his company car in September? Well, this won't be a popular comment, but at least between that and refusing his bonus, he looks like he's trying to get a better image. Or at least not sinking to the level of others and snatching and grabbing every little thing he can while bleeding the system dry. Not sure why a CFO would need a company car- for a finances emergency? Glad she gave hers up, too.

So we're seeing teensy, incremental unsucks as the result of journalists exposing corruption. Just goes to show you how important this blog and other critical media coverage is. Without them, we'd be worse off than we are now.
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Fire brian anderson · 673 weeks ago

Why would any executive of an agency whose odds entire purpose is mass transit be given an automobile? It's pretty crazy that that was precedent-they are used to being treated like royalty. I mean, i dont expect him to not own a car, but he can buy one with his $400k. 99% of his work business is surely, well, metro accessible anyway.
Why would he be given an automobile?

Come on, it's Metro! He may actually require reliable transportation, too!!

I think though, that many of the "higher ups" are given take home vehicles because they are expected to respond to emergency situations, day or night, and Metro isn't operating during some of those times.
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UnSuck Fan · 673 weeks ago

Ah, no worries. This is par for the course for WMATA. The ENTIRE system is going up/down in flames! ;-)
Thats all we need. Trains that catch on fire. And then people can't get out when the doors malfunction.

I saw on twitter that at one of the exits at Union Station, almost all the faregates are broken. Yes, thats right, WMATA can't even properly maintain faregates.

Fucking ridiculous
They were not fires. It was Metro trying to liven things up as part of their "let's disguise our mess with distraction" campaign. They were actually fireworks that Metro bought and attached to the front of select trains to show the riders that they care about us. I think the people in the front car of the "fire trains" also got free lifetime supply of fare hikes.
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Stan Dessel · 673 weeks ago

Hope you enjoyed the free light show. You're welcome.
Can we start a pool to pick the number of days until the next person (customer or staff) is sent to the hospital due to metro incompetence? Whoever's closest wins - no penalty for going over.

I'll start: 20 days, which puts me on April 22nd.
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Smart ass · 673 weeks ago

Good math
"One person's burning metro is another person's central heating"
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hrh king friday 13 · 673 weeks ago

The train was dragging Katy Perry and her breasteses were going off again.
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hrh king friday 13 · 673 weeks ago

Oh come on, nobody has seen the video for "Fireworks?"
I at least heard the sound from the Shady Grove platform. I didn't see the flames but I would have been towards the back of the train. I couldn't figure out what it was!
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Dr. Gridlock · 673 weeks ago

This is just a heat phenomenon and out of METROs hands. You see according to my best friend Dan Stessel he assures me that due to METRO being built way too long ago they never would have forseen the fire.

Now, remember, stay 1.5 car lengths behind the car in front of you at a red light. Doctor's orders
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Remember folks, metro is not a young whipper-snapper like the T in Boston. Or the young'un the MTA runs in NYC.
re, the silver line
http://wtop.com/?nid=654&sid=2849479

this may be a dumb question, but why aren't they building it as a three bore/track line? i mean, we've all seen how well having only two tracks has worked over the years; if they have a chance to remedy what they *know* is going to be a problem, why aren't they doing it? (or did they try, and were stymied somehow? i don't know if they tried to get enough land for three tracks or not...)
3 replies · active 672 weeks ago
If I had to guess, I'd say cost. Pretty much why we're stuck with a 2 track system now.
When they built the Dulles Access Road and Toll Road, the design was for a two-track line in the median. There's not enough room for three tracks and all the road under some of the overpasses, and that would have raised costs tremendously.
ah. thx.
The fact that there has been a fully inflated, blue basketball on the tracks by the Gallery Place green line platform (branch ave) for almost a week now...has been a source of amusement for me.
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DC Denizen · 673 weeks ago

Ditto the sparkly dress sandals that were on the tracks on the lower level of L'Enfant for forever and a day. I'm trying to figure out how/why that happened! Oops! My shoes came off! Oops! I threw them across the tracks!
Strange in both cases, but not far from the baseline inside the metro system. When I imagine the scene--around 2am on a Friday, a drunk woman beligerantly hurls the sandals onto the tracks while slumped against a wall waiting for orange--it doesn't seem like something I would be very shocked to see.
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GlenmontGirl · 672 weeks ago

There's been a pair of child's gloves draped over the lights on the edge of the orange line to vienna track at Metro Center for about a year and a half now. I've given up hope that they'll ever be removed.
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GlenmontGirl · 672 weeks ago

Hey everyone, Mr. Unsuck asked me to post this to the comments section as an addition to my story:

As far as I could tell, the train was not sparking/flaming until it started moving. At least, that's when I first noticed the flames and sparks. The flames were fairly small and concentrated on the underside of the train in a few small areas; it wasn't like the whole bottom of a car was covered in flames. However, they were bright and large enough that I (and clearly several others) noticed them all the way at the other end of the platform. The train was sparking all the way down the track as it pulled out. There were LOTS of sparks, and I could see them shooting along the sides of the train and also out from underneath the backs of the cars.
I wonder if any of you realize that this is standard on every rail-based rapid transit system because it is. In most cases, it occurs due to friction between the collector shoe and the third rail at a switch. The train is not on fire and it's safe. Learn before you freak out.
1 reply · active 671 weeks ago
Very true, except Metro Center doesn't have any switches or breaks in the third rail...... it might have been the resistors under the car overheating and catching fire
The resistors are only flowing current during dynamic braking. A shower of sparks while the train is under power is more than likely coming from the traction motor. Either that or something high voltage dragging on the ground under it.

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