Wednesday, July 13, 2011

More Perversion


From AB:
I'm writing to tell you about an incident that occurred this past Friday morning (7/8/11) on the Orange Line to Vienna around 8:30 a.m.

I boarded at New Carrollton and sat in one of the "sideways" seats next to an older gentleman. A younger, very small Hispanic girl (I'd say early-mid 20s) sat on the inside seat in the second row of forward facing seats across from where I was sitting. The car was semi-filled with almost a person in each row of seats with each person having an open seat next to them.

I can't recall exactly which stop (it had to have been Cheverly or Deanwood because we were still outdoors), but I noticed a very large African-American male board and make a bee-line for the open seat next to the girl I mentioned.

Something immediately felt "off" to me. There were plenty of other spots that would have been more comfortable. The guy was at least 6'4" and about 220-230lb. Big dude.

I began to subtly keep my eye on the situation. He had shorts on, really short shorts made of loose jersey net material. They were kind of strange.

As the train moved along, he started casually crowding the girl next to him, getting as close as possible. Then, I saw his hand, which was wrapped around his erect penis, which was hanging out of his shorts.

I couldn't believe my eyes. He had his newspaper folded in half to keep it covered but it was hardly covered at all, and I could see everything going on.

He was shifting his eyes around and would then turn his head to the girl with the most disgusting look on his face. He was starting to move his elbow closer to her as she kind of curled up in the corner as he played with himself right there in the seat.

As I said, this girl was tiny, and there was no way she was going to get around him. She had a terrified look on her face, and she was clearly on the verge of tears.

I can only guess why she didn't call out for help or scream or do something. She didn't seem to speak much English, and I guess she didn't know what to do. This all happened pretty quickly.

I was looking around to see if anyone could see.

I sat there for a second in shock trying to think what, if anything, I could do as he continued touching himself.

Then, the girl made eye contact with me, and that was it.

I jumped up and took a step in her direction and said something to the extent of "Do you want to get out of there? Do you want to come sit over in this seat? Let me help you over here."

She practically jumped at me, intensely nodding her head and saying "YES! YES!" She jumped into the forward facing seat next to me and said "thank you" several times.

Meanwhile, the pervert flipped out, cursing at me and insulting me over and over.

As he was screaming at me, I turned to her and asked if she was OK, and she said she was.

I was sure I was about to get pummeled by this dude. Although everyone's attention was now turned to the situation, I was positive he was going to at least take a swing at my face.

But he didn't do anything.

The second the train stopped and the doors opened, he jumped up and ran off the train. This makes me think he's a regular at doing this kind of thing and didn't want to draw additional attention to himself.

I need to mention that I was unaware of the emergency button in the back of each train that calls the operator. A friend told me about those this weekend. Had I known, I am not sure which choice I would have made, but that definitely would have been the safer one and is what I would recommend if anyone else finds themselves in such a potentially dangerous situation.

For whatever it's worth, the pervert had a few days of beard growth. He had a hat on and wore basketball shoes with white tube socks pulled a quarter way up his shin. He got on the Orange Line somewhere around Cheverly or Deanwood and jumped off around Capitol South or Eastern Market.

I think I will at least file a report with Metro police for the sake of making a record of the incident, but I doubt it will do much good.

Stay safe people.
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Quote, "rapped around his erect penis,"

I hate rap music.
2 replies · active 718 weeks ago
oops. fixed. thx.
Maybe he couldn't find a microphone
So, the button would have been the safer thing for YOU to have done, however, it would have allowed that man to do as he wished for just that much longer.

Don't second guess yourself, you made the right decision, it would have sucked... a lot... if the guy would have taken a swing at you, but I am pretty sure even in retrospect, you would have deemed your actions as worth the risk.

by the way... how do most metro busses have multiple cameras on them, while the trains don't?
Anyone else find that odd?
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I wonder if it's because on buses, drivers are out in the open, so they are at risk, whereas metro drivers are securely behind a door? Could it be about protecting drivers, not passengers? Maybe WMATA wants evidence for fights with unions? They don't care about passengers anyway.
You did the commendable thing. I am so glad there are people like you on Metro - that young girl will be eternally grateful for you speaking up. It is always a risk to speak up - but if we all are too fearful to do so, the horrible people out there will continue to behave as they do as there will be no consequence. I am glad you are both OK and I do hope that everyone will remain aware and alert so that we can continue to help each other.
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Italian Guy · 718 weeks ago

You did the right thing - you helped the young lady. If this guy keeps doing this stuff, he will get caught eventually. Reporting the incident would be a good way to go.
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Wouldratherdrive · 718 weeks ago

He is a serious threat. They never stop at stuff like that NEVER. Please report it to Metro Police and make sure that you ask for a copy of the report along with a report number. Follow up on this since he is likely to ultimately rape someone somewhere along that route in the future - maybe as they are walking from the station. Also folks should discreetly see if they can get a photo or short video of these perps since that proves they were up to no good and usually forces the police to actually stop chatting and do something about it.
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I agree, sexual predators often escalate once they are comfortable that they will not get caught. Yes, definitely report it, especially since you have so much identifying information.
Is there a camera at the station he bolted out of?? Maybe you could pick him out.
I Metro police officer gave a talk at work. Two options are, at the next stop get off and go to the next car and call the driver, that way you don't piss the jerk off the other option is to call Metro Police, not 911. the number is 202-962-2121 you will get Metro Police fast, you need to tell them where you are and what car you are on. you can find the car # on the ends of the car on the door.

Thanks for helping her.
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crucible · 718 weeks ago

Why the hell isn't this number plastered onto every train, predominantly?

I take the metro every single (work) day and cannot state with any authority what the number is off hand. What I should be able to do is be comfortable with the fact that I know it's clearly in muliple locations, visibly readable on every train should I ever need it; I cannot say that now to any extent, and that needed to change.

C-
I've got it programmed into my cell, just in case. That way I won't have to look around for it in an emergency like this one.
adress book .... what letter is it under, p for police or m for metro? .... oh yeah, 'm' ... okay, scroll down, overshot, scroll up, got it! ... dial the # ...

In a non-emergency that is not a cumbersome process. In an emergency you need something you can remember fast or at least have the info somewhere yo would be looking at.
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VeggieTart · 718 weeks ago

Another problem is if you're in a tunnel when this incident occurs, you can incur roaming charges if you don't have Verizon.
If you're concerned about incurring roaming charges while reporting a crime in progress, your priorities may need examining.
You should save it with an "A" in front of it or whatever will make it top in your contacts list. I have a Blackberry and I have the police listed with a First name of "A" and then the company name of "Police" so either its at the top of the list or if I have to search I can search by "police".

I'm a fairly small woman and I had a similar thing happen it me when I lived in NJ - gross man exposing himself and more, etc. It took me a long time to get over. In my situation, the cops caught the man and it went all the way to court where I was told that it was my word against his. He got away with no punishment. I got months of being fearful of being alone in public places. Disgusting.

I think I would have lunged at him and started screaming so that everyone on the car knew clearly what was happening. Gross strangers expose themselves in public places and then disappear into the crowd never having to answer for it. We have to change this.

Good for you for protecting that poor woman.
You take Metro every day to work.....yet you don't hear that obnoxious pre-recorded announcement from Chief Taborn? He spits out the number a hundred time per day.

Oh...and it's on the Pocket Guides.
I have never heard an prerecorded message from Cheif Anybody! :)
Also, contact the MTPD plainclothes officer who helped catch the other pervert a few weeks ago - see previous posts. We'll also keep an eye out...
Here is officer Langs email: Investigator Lang at rlang[at]wmata.com.
I have called that metro police number before... and it rang and rang and rang and nobody ever answered. I called back three times and no one would answer, so I finally gave up. That number is worthless... completely worthless. The metro police don't give a crap.
Seriously? Honestly, I find that hard to believe. You sure you were dialing it right? Did it go to voice mail?
Thank you for helping the woman and thank you in advance for filing the report. Please everyone, report these things as soon as they happen- that gives the transit police a chance at catching the offender if they're still hanging around in the stations or on the trains looking for their next victim.

How truly terrifying. As a woman who commutes via Metro every day, I'm so grateful to you for speaking up. I've been in a similar situation where another passenger just averted his eyes and ignored it and another passenger only asked me if I was OK after the man had left. It's hard to describe the impact that an act like that has on you. Your intervention may have stopped something even worse from happening.
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hrh king friday 13 · 718 weeks ago

This post sent shivers down my spine. What the hell is going on.
On the LIRR once, I caught a man taking photo's up girl's skirts and I mean both working women and young girls (not that either is ok)

I snapped a picture of the man and called the Transit Police when I got off the train. They didn't care at all. They took my info but never called me for his picture or anything.

And I rode the train with this creep often -- who was a nicely dressed business man. I finally starting warning women not to sit across from him. He switched trains eventually.
4 replies · active 713 weeks ago
I'm just curious as to why you think he was taking pictures? As a nicely-dressed business man that is obsessively attached to his Blackberry, which has a camera that, yes, does face toward the people across from me, I'd hate to be labeled as such a pervert. Do you have evidence that he was actually taking pictures? Or maybe he just had a camera phone in his hand but was playing Brick Breaker or something.
I'm thinking that the guy was doing more than just sitting in a normal position, blackberry in front of his face... it's pretty hard to take pictures up someone's skirt and look like you're playing brickbreaker.
I agree, but some people are farsighted and don't have a Blackberry right up to their face. I'm not condoning taking pictures up someone's skirt by any means whatsoever, I'm just wondering how people that can make a strong accusation like that can be so sure.
you hold the phone at a different angle if you're taking a picture vs playing a game. come on. we're adults. don't play dumb or devil's advocate and suggest he was playing a game. if the poster said it looked like the guy was taking pictures, that's what he was doing.
This is why I wish people like John Wayne or Jack Bauer rode the Metro. People who would have no qualms plugging a freak like that.
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RedLineROFL · 718 weeks ago

While I can understand the negativity towards Metro, any follower of this blog knows how great Metro police have handled these situations in the past. Definitely file a report and keep on top of it. They'll get this perv like the ones in the past. Especially since it does seem he has this practiced.
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Afrostyling · 718 weeks ago

This is gross! You did the right thing under the circumstances. That young lady was obviously scared.
I think you did exactly the right thing. Getting the person being attacked/harassed out of harm's way should be the priority. Then use the emergency call button to report the activity. Also - you were kind of nice. I wouldn't have left it at just asking her if she wanted to move. I would have then explained - LOUDLY - to the entire train car what the guy was doing. Because then you have allies and other witnesses. And ladies, if you ever find yourself sitting next to a creep, don't be afraid to just start screaming (I know, easier said than done - everybody's reaction is different). Or you know, find a pen or a nail file in your purse and stab him in the leg :-)
you forgot the #noracist tag :p
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RedLineFail · 718 weeks ago

Please send your story here : http://hollabackdc.wordpress.com/

Unfortunately, there will always be creeps like this guy. Hopefully he is caught before his actions escalate. I hope that whenever possible, Metro riders are able to notice and confront harassment and assault.
Jokes aside, I think the best thing you could do in this situation is jump up and yell "WHAT THE F**K PUT YOUR DICK BACK IN YOUR PANTS YOU PERVERT!"
It would single him out, embarrass him, call attention to him. If he does take a swing at you, well then, you can call the cops. Plus you will have an awesome story to tell for why you are late to work, and you will look like a hero.
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Exactly. I support public shaming 100%. Sure, he might flip out and punch you in the face but seriously... that only hurts for a few minutes -- maybe an hour. It's definitely worth watching the public humiliation.
Please also post this to Holla Back DC to get the warning about this guy out to as many women as possible...
http://hollabackdc.wordpress.com/
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Anony Mouse · 718 weeks ago

I just threw up in my mouth a little. :/

Thank you for your bravery during the situation - that must have been scary. Definitely report this guy!
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UChaseNME2 · 718 weeks ago

I was on that same train when that happen!!! Sitting 2 rows from you. That guy gets on at my stop Minnesota Ave. I see him almost every morning!!! I was going to take his picture and put it all over Facebook!!! He was disgusting!! Thank you SOO much for standing up for her!! I thought he was going to hit you too!! Telling you to mind your business, and F you, etc!!! I had your back!! I'm ex-military and plus I had my pepper spray waiting!!!
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take his picture next time you see him!
Yes- take that picture and send it to Investigator Lang so they can be on the lookout for the guy.
I sure will. I promise!!
Will do. Adam, are you the guy that stood up for the lady? If so, I believe I saw you again on Monday morning. I think you were wearing a blue polo shirt. I wanted to say something to you then and say Thank You! Not many people would have said something.
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Wouldratherdrive · 718 weeks ago

Please PLEASE take a pic of him next time you see him (discreetly of course so he doesn't know). This dude needs to get arrested before he has a chance to do this to someone else.
Will do!!
When similar accounts have been posted in the past, there's been an investigator that has posted contact info and asked for more information. I'm blanking on the person's name, unfortunately. If that person doesn't comment today, I'd go through some of the previous postings and find it. Heck, I might do that anyway right now....
Found it:
http://unsuckdcmetro.blogspot.com/2011/03/unsuck-...

In the main text of that post, Inspector Lang had asked for "any more victims" to email at rlang [at] wmata.com -- it wasn't clear if the Inspector was referring to that specific incident or victims of these perverts in general, but it's certain worth sending an email.
Now THIS is when to confront someone. Hats off to you!!! I'm seriously considering buying a stun gun just for these weirdos.
This is exactly why I never ever ride in the seat next to the window, metro etiquette be damned. I will gladly get up and let you sit next to the window, and even offer if I'm in that situation, but there's no way in hell I'm going to let myself be trapped in a seat.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/07/subway_perve...

I just read this story on NYmag and the writer asked why none of the passengers spoke up while a guy rubbed up against a woman...and this happened on 3 separate occassions. I'm happy to see that DC metro riders are taking notice and making others aware of what's going on when disgusting things like this happen.

Hopefully they'll catch this jackass.
"She didn't seem to speak much English, and I guess she didn't know what to do."
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But you spoke for and acted in her defense. Kudos to you.
like I said, IF any pervert touched my girlfriend, I will take action and that's the bottom line becasue I SAID SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and I hate them dc metro customer service because they are all jackasses!
I wish women were better trained to respond to this sort of thingt. Even the few who take self-defense courses, it's never talked about. So we freeze up and don't know how to respond. Of course, the perps are very good about sizing up their victims. That guy knew exactly how she would respond. I would have given him hell, but he would never choose me as a victim.

Thanks for helping the girl, I think you did a really good job!
I'm done wth the DC Metro system as of 7/14/11. I don't need this system anymore.
Thank you so much for helping the young women. You did the right thing, and I'm really happy to share a city with people like you.
Heh. If you want to post on HollaBack, you'd better redact the part about physically describing the perpetrator. If you mention that he is black, you are, by their definition, racist, and your post will be removed.

They take the position that concern for the black ego trumps women's safety.
3 replies · active 705 weeks ago
Sad but true. Which is why I wouldn't probably waste my time posting on a site like that. Everyone knows who causes the trouble.
@abc: Everyone knows who causes the trouble, where? In the DC Metro system, or everywhere? I'm just wondering because almost all of your posts are in a similar vein.
@notled: I agree! Notice how abc is constantly harping on race? What did Winston Churchill say? "A fanatic is someone who can't change their mind and won't change the subject." :) Also, abc hasn't had the guts to reply to any posts that are more intelligent than his/her own. No loss!!

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