
Metro says all operators are trained in first aid.
From Jacquelyn:
I was on the train the other day, and another rider passed out for 5-10 seconds and hit his head hard.Other items:
I was the first responder, and when he came to, I asked him to remain on the floor until help arrived.
This happened between the Pentagon and Arlington Cemetery.
When we reached Arlington Cemetery, the operator came, saw that the passenger was awake, and didn't seem to understand why he was on the floor, even after I told him that he had passed out and hit his head.
The conductor had him get up and walk off the train and called for help.
Soon after, the passenger passed out again.
When the paramedic came, the conductor only told him that he had passed out twice. I then went up to the paramedic and told him the full story.
My complaint is that the conductor was not trained in the very basics of first aid.
First of all, I realize that it is rush hour, but if a passenger hits his or her head from a fall, you DO NOT move them. Even if they are awake and can move their legs.
They can have a concussion, or develop bleeding. Are those small possibilities? Yes, but all head injuries should be treated as serious.
Second, when the passenger passed out again, the conductor did panic a little. Again, because he wasn't trained.
I hope this complaint is taken seriously.
I do not fully blame the conductor for his actions, as I understand that when he first saw the passenger, the rider was conscious.
What I am angry about is that he did not listen to me and then didn't understand the potential significance of a head injury, most likely because he was not trained in the basics of first aid.
I hope the passenger is OK and that he was sent to a hospital, because I got the impression he wasn't, even after all that happened.
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JJL · 720 weeks ago
Suuuuuure they're trained.
Corresponding Toads · 720 weeks ago
jkuchen · 720 weeks ago
Seriously, though, I'm happy that Jacquelyn stepped in. We hear of too many instances of people just standing by and watching. It's good to see people who have some idea of what they're doing helping out.
Anon · 720 weeks ago
Wouldratherdrive · 720 weeks ago
UnSuck Fan · 720 weeks ago
@whfsdude · 720 weeks ago
http://www.wmata.com/pdfs/planning/Customer_Safet...
Of course it is a document for capital costs so who knows if they actually implemented any of that. Maybe unsuck could contact Stessel and get the AED situation. Eg. Does every station now have one?
Boycotting and Happy · 720 weeks ago
Even if Metro cars and rails were safe, the stations are not. They're death traps for the most part.
Styloroc · 720 weeks ago
Death traps? Seriously? Please, that's a bit over the top -- for all the crime and commonplace accidents that do occur in Metro cars and rails, I'm sure walking on DC streets is much more dangerous... I think most people are prone to their own unintentional self-destriction if left to their own devices.
anon · 720 weeks ago
The stations are death traps in that they are inadequately designed for large crowds. How often have we seen people lined six or seven deep, waiting for a delayed train? Then there are the elevated platforms with exactly one exit and hundreds of people pushing to get to it. In the snow or rain.
Styloroc · 720 weeks ago
Having been hit TWICE by taxis on bike and motorcycle, I'll be willing to figure that DC's roads and walkways are considerably more dangerous. Scratch that... considering having a fellow classmate stabbed and another one hit and killed by a drunk driver last year -- I'm sorry, in relative terms, I don't think the Metro can't be considered a "death trap".
Styloroc · 720 weeks ago
Truth in labelling people...let's be sensible and perhaps some progress can be made in making Metro a better, safer system within reason...calling Metro a death trap is the equivalent of Glen Beck comparing Obama to Hitler.
jkuchen · 720 weeks ago
"Most of the employees involved in recent violations received unpaid suspensions of at least five days, Stessel said, but one was suspended for 20 days without pay. Another was fired, he said."
Dan, please keep us informed on this, especially if these personnel actions get reduced or overturned. Many of us have grown quite cynical with regards to the staying power of these actions.
alkebulan · 720 weeks ago
VeggieTart · 720 weeks ago
@ChrisHowdy · 720 weeks ago
Frustr8dCommuter · 720 weeks ago
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Kara · 720 weeks ago
iolaire 71p · 720 weeks ago
JRK · 720 weeks ago
n2deep · 720 weeks ago
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Mary · 720 weeks ago
Even if someone has 0 first-aid training they can do what seems reasonable and that is a lot ... like make sure the person is okay until help arrives. Under no circumstances should you try to move someone who might be injured, as you say, you are not trained ... let EMTs or other people who are make that call. Not that you should sit on them if they move themselves, but a REASONABLE PERSON might advise against it if they think that is not a good idea.
Yes, everyone grumbles when a train gets delayed. Metro uses "sick passenger" and "emergency situation all the time though. So I am mystified as to why they feel they could not say it when it actually happens too.
Ugh · 720 weeks ago
Mary · 720 weeks ago
Ugh · 720 weeks ago
Getting laughed out of court is damn expensive.
dcn8v · 720 weeks ago
hrh king friday 13 · 720 weeks ago
noname · 720 weeks ago
Guest · 720 weeks ago
noname · 720 weeks ago
anon · 720 weeks ago
http://ohmygov.com/blogs/general_news/archive/200...
HurricaneDC 76p · 720 weeks ago
You'll have better luck hoping for a peaceful resolution to the Middle Eastern conflicts.
Metro Ryder · 720 weeks ago
Knowing how bad my first aid and CPR training was, I'm not at all surprised the metro employee didn't seem to have any. I really can't fault him for it, if his training was up to date, it may not have been any good.
dddddda · 720 weeks ago
UnSuck Fan · 720 weeks ago
washingtondcmetro 20p · 720 weeks ago
I retired from Metro last year. I can't recall the last time my coworkers and I in Automatic Train Control (ATC) had CPR training. Over the 27 years I was with Metro I had CPR at least twice, maybe 3 times. I don't recall ever having first aid training.
As with so much else at Metro, the primary problem is a lack of oversight. Metro answers to no one except themselves (the WMATA board of directors).
If the situation is the same in Operations (I'd guess it is) we can't blame the Train Operator for not being knowledgeable. It is often the case that when employees appear to be incompetent it is actually the fault of management for not providing proper training and testing.
RGG · 720 weeks ago
Former EMT · 720 weeks ago
The train was delayed on the Green line (I think at West Hyattsville or PG Plaza.) A woman stuck her head inside the car I was sitting and asked if anyone was a doctor or medical pro. I told her I was an EMT and she asked if I could help.
She brought me to the car where a young woman was semi-conscious. I did what little I could to get a basic patient assessment - talked to her, asked her about her medical history, asked if she had any pain, if she could remember anything, if she had Diabetes or Epilepsy, etc. With no equipment (bp cuff, etc.) I couldn't get her vital signs - since I don't wear a watch I couldn't even get an accurate pulse...
Former EMT · 720 weeks ago
Was the patient's life in danger? Probably not. She actually refused to go to the hospital and signed a release form. But I felt she needed to at least have her vitals taken and she needed the option fo transport to the ER. It happens some times - your commute gets disrupted by someone who might need to go to the hospital asap.
Kat · 720 weeks ago
cpr · 720 weeks ago
http://www.redcross.org/portal/site/en/menuitem.d...
Jacquelyn · 717 weeks ago
"Your email was received by Metro's Rail Transportation Customer Service. Please excuse this delinquent response due to my workflow back-log. Regarding the action taken by the rail operator, when a rider has taken ill, the rail operator is trained to call for medical assistance. If the customer is able to walk off of the train, than the train will keep moving, otherwise, the rail operator will be instructed to remain until EMS arrive. Usually a Metro supervisor will enter the train if the rider is unable to move. Thank you for the assistance rendered. We welcome and appreciate conscientious riders with suggestions to help make the system better. "