Tuesday, August 23, 2011

Where are the Cops?


Remember this boondoggle?

From CS:
There's a lot of talk these days about security on Metro, whether Metro police are visible enough, whether they do enough to contain the young thugs in parts of the system, etc., etc. So I decided to do a little experiment.

For a month, I kept an eye out for whether I saw any cops on my daily commute -- Orange Line from Vienna to Metro Center; then Red Line to Judiciary Square -- plus the occasional trip for lunch. Here's what I found:

7/18:
7/19:
7/20:
7/21:
7/22: Lunchtime Red Line: Cop boarded at Metro Center, immediately shut himself in vacant operator's cab and began texting. (I looked in the cab and saw his thumbs a-twitter when I got off two stops later. Head down, he didn't notice me.)
7/25:
7/26: Morning inbound: Cop boarded at Vienna; rode in train operator's cab until Farragut West, frequently yucking it up with the operator. (Laughter audible in the first car.)
7/27:
7/28:
7/29: (No info -- took the day off)
8/1:
8/2:
8/3:
8/4:
8/5:
8/8:
8/9:
8/10:
8/11:
8/12:
8/15:
8/16: Morning inbound: Cop walking along Red Line platform at Metro Center.
8/17: Two-fer -- morning inbound: cop walking along Orange Line platform at Metro Center; lunchtime Red Line: cop exiting platform at Metro Center.
8/18:
8/19:

Of course, my ride doesn't take me into all parts of the system, like parts of the Green Line, the eastern end of the Orange Line, or where the school hooligans run wild on the Red Line.

Nevertheless, what I observed doesn't exactly strike me as a robust presence.

I see my local Fairfax County police more often when I'm out and about at home. But whether you think five touches over a month is good or bad, what I found remarkable was that in each instance, the officers were doing nothing to engage with the system, the passengers, or their surroundings.

In two instances, they literally walled themselves off from contact. They could have chosen to move through cars, be visible, or talk with passengers, but didn't. They also could have been on the lookout for what seems to be a growing problem of eating/drinking on the trains. In the other three instances, the cops were just bustling from one place to another and looked like any other passenger. In all, there was plainly no effort to act like a cop on the beat.

Why does any of this matter? As Metro police have said repeatedly, the key to disruption is unpredictability. Confronted with the unusual, or encountering authorities where they don't expect them, would-be terrorists will retire for another day, police said.

But it's a little hard to shake up the routine if the cops aren't doing much to start with.

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One take · 709 weeks ago

Hold on.....Let’s not jump to conclusions.

The specific officers to whom you are referring are simply making sure that no woman commits the dangerous felony of ‘Droppin’ It Like It’s Haaawwwwwt’.
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cops not abound · 709 weeks ago

LOL!!!
I take offense to that. I am an MTPD officer who has stood on the mezzanine at Gallery Place many times. It allows me to view more of the station and to respond to either platform quickly in the event of an emergency.
But your asking for logic on this blog.....good luck with that here.
"You're" write...er...., "right"--I usually catch that, as it is a peeve of mine.....
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Ever and Anon · 709 weeks ago

I would love to hear a clear, honest reply from WMATA about your results.

"I’m still on the fence on whether you’re trying to help or just love the attention."

YES! We want attention!!! Some attention to our safety please.
1 reply · active 709 weeks ago
Metro used to engage on this blog. I was very impressed when they did. Now, they seem to not bother. I think that's an oversight by their well paid PR staff.
This has been my experience too. I go weeks without seeing a cop then when I do they immediately go to the operator's cab and shut the door...
I ride the Metro from Silver Spring to Navy Yard every weekday. At Silver Spring a few weeks ago, I noticed some MTPDs with drug and/or bomb-sniffing dogs walking around the station. They absolutely looked like they were looking for something or someone specific, especially because I rarely see MTPD in the morning at Silver Spring (they're there all the time in the afternoon).

I tweeted Metro about it, and they said it was "just visibility" and that it wasn't a cause for concern. What the hell does that even mean? I find it hard to believe that MTPD would be walking around with drug/bomb dogs for no reason when they hardly ever patrol in the first place. Just curious if anyone else has any thoughts on this.
2 replies · active 709 weeks ago
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Metro Ryder · 709 weeks ago

They do that frequently on the yellow line. I can always tell it's just for show because 1/2 the police are just standing around (in the way) chatting with each other and checking out women's asses.

It seems what all metro employees (police, station managers, etc) do best is check out women's asses.
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MadAsHeck · 709 weeks ago

A couple weeks ago in Union Station, I saw at least three officers (not sure if Metro Police, DC Police, whatever), with dogs. The youthfulness of both the officers and the dogs led me to belive it was some sort of training. This may have been part of the same activity you saw.
The only time I see Metro cops actually being vigilant is at the fare gates to make sure every last passenger is paying for the crap ride they just took. Just like with other Metro employees, it seems to be a 'run down the clock' mentality. It's damn near impossible for them to get fired, and they're going to get paid the same regardless of how much or little work they do. It is a shame though...you'd think there'd be a little bit more honor involved with someone who chose a profession to protect the public and that they'd actually want to do that, but sadly that doesn't appear to be the case.
8 replies · active 709 weeks ago
Just think of it the same way as you would when you see a State Trooper on the side of the road nabbing speeders: "It's an easy stat." A Trooper can always find a speeder to write up just as an MTPD officer can always find a "fare evader" to stroke. Stats are part of their yearly evaluations, too.

And what's the big deal, really? At least they're visible when "fare enforcement" is being performed. As much complaining as there is over lack of visibility, be thankful they're out there.
I think the point is that the only time/place they're visible is to make sure Metro sucks every last penny out of people for the piss-poor service that's being provided. I'd rather see police on the platforms and in railcars where disruptive and dangerous activity is actually happening.
I'll disagree. They're enforcing a law. And frankly, I take offense with people that don't bother paying their fares while Metro "sucks every last penny out of people." I'm glad for the enforcement. If you and I do the "right thing" then I'm more than thrilled to see the "miscreants" get burned for not doing it.

BTW....you do realize the fines off of tickets and citations for the various offenses don't go to Metro, don't you? They go to the local governments where the violation was committed. Metro doesn't profit--other than to have people pay the correct fares. I'm only referencing that in the event you believe the police enforce this so Metro makes some sort of "extra" money off of it. It doesn't.
If METRO received any money from citations issued in any jurisdiction for things like fare evasion and eating/drinking, that might be true. However, they do not.
Sadly, you think the Trooper, who is fulfilling his duties and saving lives, is merely trying to build "stats". I often hear that and find it amusing as it must be something that is said to make one's self feel better after being cited for breaking the law. For many Troopers, traffic IS their job- not 8 hrs of filler.

Fare evasion, thought it may seem to be minor, is theft. And MANY fugitives and wanted persons who would not have otherwise had an encounter with police have been apprehended after evading the fare. Very often in police work, little stops yield big results.
Dude, I'm on your side. I'm just trying to give "James" something to chew on.... The "Sarcasm" light was on...but not visible on this medieval blog.
Highly visible now. Thanks :)
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Anonerly Ev er · 709 weeks ago

I do believe not all troopers are "lazy behinds" and agree with your point that theft is theft. However, I notice you do not comment about the plethora of troopers seen hopping on trains and hiding away quickly in cabs to play with their mobiles, ignoring everything around them. Perhaps you should become a trainer. Sounds like you take your job seriously. We need more of that. Sadly, all I've seen are the train hopping hiding troopers. Doesn't make me feel safer.
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Metro Ryder · 709 weeks ago

I see metro police pretty frequently on the safer parts of the yellow line, It's hard for me to think that's not a coincidence.
3 replies · active 709 weeks ago
I assure you, it is coincidence.
It's a coincidence that the safer parts are patrolled by police? If I were a cop, I'd want to claim that I helped cause it to be safer through my patrols, not that it was a coincidence.
I misunderstood your meaning.
When I lived in Prague, you rarely saw uniformed police officers roaming metro. Instead, plain closed 'metro police' would unassumingly board trams and metros, only producing a metro badge when necessary- like when they would sweep through the entire car, asking people for their tickets, and fining them when they produced nothing.

Just as well behaved customers see uniformed officers patrolling the stations, so too do the troublemakers...and clearly they take their trouble elsewhere. It's possible that adding in some plain clothes officers could help alleviate some of the smaller issues (eating. drinking, spitting?) but it's also possible that they will take full advantage of their anonymity and do even less 'patrolling.'
One nit would be your assertion that they did nothing to interface with the system. I think the officers walking along the platform (the one on 8/16 and the two on 8/17) are interfacing with the system even if they are just walking around. It isn't like he's in the Manager's office having a donut. But, other than that, it does seem like a "Where's Waldo" exercise.
5 replies · active 709 weeks ago
Actually, I did consider that when writing this. The simple presence does have some effect. However, in this case, I saw pretty much "head down," hustling-along kind of behavior; generally not inviting of contact. It's apparent in body language, demeanor, etc. when cops want to be outgoing and engaging. These officers, in my view, did not want to be.
Probably because when they do engage with people, they get accused of harassment and ogling women's asses.
Thanks. That's fair. But, I thought it worth mentioning. A cop walking down the platform is going to be able to react to yells or cries for help. A cop hiding in the operator's cab, not so much. I can't believe I got a bunch of minuses on my first comment for a little pushback, which you answered with a nice clarification....
I'm guessing the cop in the operator's cab was on his way to his/her beat, on the other side of the system somewhere, and just wanted to sit for the long ride---which he/she can't do in public (w/o getting in potential trouble from the boss).

And the cop "hiding in the operator's cab" frequently catches people doing things they aren't supposed to be doing because he/she _isn't_ visible.
Again, as I posted further down, just another "action" taken than most people misconstrue.
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VirginiaWriter · 709 weeks ago

Bless you. What a great post. You are doing a service to your community. No bullshit. Good, good stuff. WMATA is out to lunch on this.
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Fred Smith · 709 weeks ago

Why would any Metro cop want to be engaging? ever heared of the payday bar? the french fries? and most recently the wheelchair person that always causes trouble at U st? everytime a cop wants to do his or her job they get blamed by the public for abusing powers. so what do we want from these officers? Cause its confusing to me if i were a officer.. Damed if you damned if you dont...
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coponmetro · 709 weeks ago

You're exactly right. MTPD is a PR force, not a law enforcement force. Morale is terrible, and you're right, we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. The best thing is to disappear.

FIRE TABORN
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MoreYellingAtWalls · 709 weeks ago

Cops get shit everywhere. It comes from the territory.
There are even songs dedicated to the hatred of police.
If you can't take some criticism of taking necessary action, go be a mall cop.
If you can't determine what action is necessary during your duties as a cop, I hope you're fired.

Engaging the public is different than messing with people and/or doing nothing.

A verbal warning from a police officer would certainly make me stop eating on the train. Who would complain about this? It may not keep them eating in the future, but a ticket may not either.

Enforcement of the (IMO) trivial rules (ie: eating, drinking) is less important than being present and aware in the system.

I think even saying "hello" or engaging the public in ANY way would go very far for the MTPD.
I've only been stared through or looked past if cops are patrolling a fare gate (I am male, and without ba-donk-a-donk) and generally see cops either staring at the fare gates or shooting the shit.
I have noticed attentive cops many times at fare gates. This is unimportant to me.

One time I did notice a whole bunch of cops (6, 7) in gallery place, some along the platform and some in the station. I was impressed!
A few were even said hello to people (though that may have been bc they were told to stand along the platform and didn't have cop buddies to mingle with and staring at a crowd of people was too awkward...)
agreed cops take shit for doing their job. but MTPD officers get it from both ends. you are scum for doing your job and the transit police higher ups offer ZERO support for their officers the higher ups wnat them to be PR people not police officers.
i was at a station this past weekend when a couple officers detained a couple youths as possible robbery suspects. the cameras were blazing away! one officer asked a couple of the camera wielders to back away and they both refused to budge an inch. afraid to miss something. one of the youths was being beligerent and not really cooperating. so a little force was used to get his hand behind his back. i am waiting for the police brutality screams to start.
bottom line is people want police presence and a show of force but are the first to complain when they get it. sad....very sad
As an active MTPD officer, I agree wholeheartedly.
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ANOTHERCOP · 709 weeks ago

When you are not needed you are a nuisance. When you're needed you're asked why you weren't there faster. Sheep hate and fear the sheepdog except when the wolf is in their flock. However, non LEOs should feel glad that when bad things happen they have the option to run away from the danger rather than toward it. Sad.
Well said
“Sheep hate it when they pay the sheepdogs to protect them, only to have the sheepdogs huddle up with each other in useless, immobile clumps and/or hide out in the operator compartments while wolves roaming through the flock at will.” There, I fixed your metaphor for you.
Thankless job.....

I was talking to a MTPD officer a couple of weeks ago about the iPod robberies and if they are still occurring. He said that, try as they might, people still aren't getting it and are getting smacked nearly every day. He said he mentioned to a passenger on the train recently how it may be in her best interest to conceal her property while in the system.

Her response: "When I want your advise I'll ask for it."

Thankless job.....
I'm kind of skeptical, because your story implies that the cop was actually riding around in the train keeping an eye on things. But if your friend really is the one MTPD officer who does this, then more power to him.

Also, while I understand that warning members of the public about potentially risky behavior is part of a cop's job, maybe if the MTPD was actually doing its job properly I would be able to take my ipod out on the train without fear of being robbed? A MTPD officer telling people that it's not safe to take their ipod out on the train is kind of like my plumber telling me not to run water in my bathroom sink. I mean, yeah, I appreciate the warning - but maybe we could fix the underlying problem, rather than just warn me away from doing something that I'm supposed to be able to do?
That is perhaps the most asinine thing I have ever heard. The ONLY thing, in my opinion, that can prevent these robberies is officer presence. With 86 stations and a huge amount of trains and busses, that is IMPOSSIBLE. A limited number of officers cant be everywhere in the system- it just isn't going to happen.

But you compare this type of robbery to water in the sink, but it is a uselesl example. It's like telling your kids to slow down while driving because they might kill themselves, then blaming it on the roads when they are involved in an accident.

The problem here is people who are victims. Don't MAKE yourself a victim, and blame in on everyone else. I have worked in plain clothes throughout the system often and seen people sitting there completely unaware of their surroundings with their IPhone or other electronic device out for someone to grab as if to say "sure, take it". You also have to take responsibility when it comes to crime prevention.
Opps. Sorry for the typos- it's still early.

And by the way, do you lock your car doors? House doors?
"A limited number of officers cant be everywhere in the system- it just isn't going to happen."

I would be more receptive to that argument if the (apparently) small number of officers that MTPD does have deployed appeared to actually be patrolling agressively. Why add still more officers if the ones that we already have aren't actually patrolling? Do we need even more cops standing around the station manager booths in even bigger clusters? Would that help reduce crime?

"The problem here is people who are victims. Don't MAKE yourself a victim, and blame in on everyone else."

And here I thought the problem was the criminals. Good to know that the real problem is the victims...
You must spend most of your time--if you actually ride at all--on the "safe" parts of the system. You probably don't see too many officers because they are detailed to the "NOT" safe parts.

Ride around to Minnesota Avenue, Deanwood, Anacostia, Congress Heights, and you'll likely see a few. But then again, you'll actually have to get out of Northwest..... or Bethesda....
Largo to Bradock Road every weekday, with a transfer between the blue and yellow line at l'enfant. I see several cops standing around in a cluster by the fare gates in Margo perhaps once each week, and a cop actually in the station at l'enfant once every few weeks. Perhaps l'enfant has a platoon of cops camped out by the fare gates, but if so I wouldn't see them since I stay on the platforms. I can't remember the last time I saw a cop at bradock, or in a train car (other than in the operator cab).
"But you compare this type of robbery to water in the sink, but it is a uselesl example. It's like telling your kids to slow down while driving because they might kill themselves, then blaming it on the roads when they are involved in an accident."

Your analogy sucks, because the roads aren't employees that were hired for the express purpose of preventing car accidents. Nice try, though.
Well, banning D.C. school kids would be a great start----but it aint gonna happen.

By "doing its job properly" what do you propose MTPD do? Assign an officer to each of Metro's train cars on every train in service? That's impossible, of course. I constantly hear announcements, see posters, etc., warning people to be on their toes about this activity.

It isn't necessarily that people use their electronic devices, but it's the people that sit in a "half-comatose" state, next to the doors of the train, with so much other crap in their possession that they couldn't chase the little thugs if they wanted to. Normally, if it's simply kept put away there isn't a problem. I know for a fact that many arrests are made for these offenses, but so many people have _some_ type of electronic device that there are way too many potential targets. Having earbuds in your ear, deafening yourself to the world around you, just doesn't seem like a smart move to me anyways. It results in a loss of "situational awareness."

I don't know what you consider "the underlying problem" but I know there are only about 20-24 officers on foot patrol within the entire system at any time for over 100 miles of track. Would a 100 square mile city only have 20-24 officers patrolling it per shift? Then you're bound to lose a few to arrests, details--now that D.C. schools are back in session, expect to lose officers to "bad" stations to keep an eye on the kids (interestingly, this only seems to be needed at D.C. stations---I wonder why?). The officers that work during the day are now responsible for escorting Metro's money people to the various vendors throughout the day, now . You may have seen these "carts" getting pushed through the station. This ties up several of the already few officers for a few hours during the busy morning rush time that were previously available. There used to be a special "team" that performed this duty which didn't interfere with patrol duties. There are lots of decisions from upper management that are purely $$$$ motivated, not common sense motivated.

And if the plumber tells you not to "run the water" and you do it anyways, and your house floods, do you blame the plumber?

I never believe the "victim" is the bad guy, but people have to use some common sense. This stuff is happening all the time. Why risk it? Most of the time it's "non-violent" but not always. I saw a young lady from California at Branch Avenue that was punched in the face by a thug-ette on an empty train. After busting her lip he calmly took her handbag, emptied on the floor of the train, and went through it looking for anything "good." MTPD arrested him. See, it does happen, you just don't hear about it.
Thanks, RGG. "Guest" simply doesn't seem to get it...

Don't make yourself a target. We don't live in a perfect world, so you need to use some common sense. Like you lock your house and car doors, don't hold your expensive electronics out for someone to snatch. Just as you wouldn't blame the local police because your house was broken into, don't blame Transit Police because your IPod was stolen.

Take some responsibility and play a part in crime prevention rather than expecting to do whatever you like with no consequences.

One last thing-maybe that officer is standing there with another officer or two because, unlike other departments, their backup may be 15 minutes away. How would you like to be by YOURself with no help in sight when you are fighting for your life?
"How would you like to be by YOURself with no help in sight when you are fighting for your life?"

Doesn't sound fun to me. But then again, I didn't take a job as a MTPD officer. There are many jobs that I wouldn't want to do. But if someone decides to apply for such a job and accepts a paycheck in exchange for doing it, I still expect that person to actually try their best. If you're not willing to try, please quit so that someone else who might actually be willing to do the work has a chance to try it.
"But then again, I didn't take a job as a MTPD officer."

Yep....and you're name isn't on "The Wall" either. Two are...

You lucked out.
Yeah, a murder of an MTPD officer in 1993 and another in 2001.

Meanwhile, five of WMATA's customers were murdered in 2010 alone. Who knows how many of those people would still be alive if MTPD wasn't standing around in a group by the station manager's office because they were too scared to go down into the station and do their job?

And before you disagree with that characterization, notice that "ACOP" essentially admitted this in his above post...
What 5 "murders" are you talking about? Accidents?

There were recent stories--here included--about the MTPD radio system being screwed up so officers were teaming up. It seems to me that that would be a smart move. Not to mention that MTPD officers are subjected to the same screwed up Metro system that everyone else is, with train delays galore, so the fact that a "back-up" may not arrive in a timely manner would encourage that "congregating" behavior.

"they were too scared to go down into the station and do their job? "

I don't think that's what "ACOP" was stating. Generalizing that all MTPD officers are "scared" is a bit much, don't you think? I don't think anyone really expects ONE officer to jump into the middle of a fight between 20 "thugettes" by him/herself--only to get turned on by the mob and hurt (Personally, I say let 'em beat the crap out of each other until they tire out!!).
"By "doing its job properly" what do you propose MTPD do?"

As I have already said many times, I want them to patrol aggressively on the platforms and in the trains, rather than camping out around the station manager's office in groups or hiding out in the operator compartments.

"I don't know what you consider "the underlying problem" but I know there are only about 20-24 officers on foot patrol within the entire system at any time for over 100 miles of track."

Let's try having the cops actually patrol and see what that's like before we decide we need to hire more. We won't know whether or not the current number of MTPD is sufficient to control crime until they start actually trying to control crime.

"And if the plumber tells you not to "run the water" and you do it anyways, and your house floods, do you blame the plumber?"

I don't blame the plumber for my turning on the water. I DO blame the plumber for not being able to fix my plumbing like he was hired to do. If I call a plumber because my house floods when I try to run the water, and his response is "so don't run the water then!", I'm going to start looking for a new plumber pretty quickly.
"patrol aggressively"

Sure....until your kid gets locked up for eating French Fries....

It used to be said: "Take care of the little things, and the big things tend to take care of themselves....."

But that was before "YouTube...."
So I have to choose between either having police who do asinine things like arrest a child for eating frenchfries or having useless police who stand around in groups in the safe areas doing nothing? There's not, like, some third option, where the police do go after the thieves and thugs who randomly assault people, but also don't arrest children for trivial things?
I know the guy involved in the "french fry" incident. There were so many complaints --from passengers-- about the kids acting a fool at Tenlytown--and eating and drinking with total disregard for anyone else--that a decision was made to make an example out of someone to hopefully quell the behavior. It's the law and it was enforced. I don't have a problem with it. Keep in mind, this occurred way before the popularity of iPhones and ilk became popular--and popular with the punks, too. It was a "slower" time on the ol' Metro.......

MTPD puts out plain clothes teams frequently at the "bad" stations, acting as decoys, to purposely get "robbed." It has had some success from what I've been told.

Most of the officers are detailed to certain stations in the "peak" times to try and deter the "youths" from running amok. Obviously, this is going to take away from other area getting service, but it's a "calculated risk." Where is something bad likely to occur.... Minnesota Avenue----or Braddock Road?

So, if there are 20-24 on a shift, and half of those are tied up on "school details" while half of the rest are assigned to protect the "revenue carts" well, as you can see that doesn't leave many to be "visible."
Metro Cops certainly know how to check out women's asses. A few weeks ago at Union Station two of Metro's finest were blatanty staring at my fiancee as we were walking down the platform (it was so blatant that she noticed and became uncomfortable) When we passed them, one of them said, "nice ass, sweetie." My response: "Are you guys fucking serious?" They responded by telling me to "keep walking, tough guy. You don't want no trouble." On the bright side, at least they were patrolling the platform.
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Send email and descriptions to rlang[at]wmata.com. Badge numbers and names if you can recall
Why? Lang holds merely the rank of "officer," too, not a supervisor. Don't waste your time.

If you have a _real_ complaint like that, MTPD has an Internal Affairs just like everyone else. Or you can simply call to speak to a supervisor to air your grievance. Keep in mind though that normally, unless it's a violation of some "General Order" or written directive, there isn't much that can me done. Being a jerk may not qualify.
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MadAsHeck · 709 weeks ago

I think you may have coined a new slang term: "Patrolling the Platform".

Man watching woman walk: Hey hot stuff!
Woman: What do you want?
Man: nothing, I'm jus' patrollin' da platform.
While we're focused on unsucking DC Metro, perhaps I could offer a segue for unsucking DC cabs? After all, what alternative do we have after Metro?
Medallion system is a pointless idea for DC cabs. Solution is much simpler than that- fair, transparent regulation is needed to weed the sucky cab companies and drivers out. Just this morning, a co-worker had to run after a cab that hit a cyclist then fled the scene. Luckily, my co-worker managed to confront the cab driver and get the attention of a passing cop. Cab company in question? None other than Luxury Cab, part of United Ventures Consortium, for which Haimanot Bizuayehu is the chairman, and a very vocal opponent of Gray administration proposed taxi regulation (which does suck, in all fairness).
I see at least 1, usually several, at Van Ness practically every day when school is letting out. Both on the platform and boarding trains. While I am EXTREMELY happy to have them there trying to rein in the kids I do often wonder what other trouble spots are being missed by a concentration there.
I did once see someone get pulled off the train by police at Franconia Springfield. It was about six months ago. I ride the yellow, b/o and red lines (for about 11 years) and the only places I see police are F-S, Metro Center and Gallery Place.
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That's because they're so tied up at stations with bratty-ass D.C. school kids. Metro Center/Gallery Place are transfer points, so it makes sense you'd see more there as the lines cross. Franconia is "end-of-line" and has a huge garage to patrol, so that makes sense, too. I see more at the end of the line and transfer stations, too.
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boredRider · 709 weeks ago

I also see them often at Gallery Place, but not as much recently. However, in the past couple of weeks in the evenings i have seen dogs units at Farragut West when I go home.
As an MTPD officer, I understand the concerns, but also urge people not to assume too much too soon. Don't be too quick to "judge the book by its cover". Yes, there are officers who don't do much, don't engage the public, and yes, inappropriately look at those of the opposite sex. However, there are also many that work VERY hard to do their job and to be effective as Transit Police Officers- it may just not look that way to you.

-When you see that officer sitting in his cruiser and not down walking the platform, he isn't lazy. He is there in his car so he can quickly respond to calls for service and to back up other officers.

-When you see that officer standing by the faregates and not on the platform, it may be because he has radio reception there and not on the platform and needs to be able to hear radio traffic if something occurs.

There are countless other examples of how an officer's actions (or inaction) can easily be misconstrued. My point? Don't automatically assume the worst.

Be safe
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In March after a DC United game I saw a guy get arrested at Lenfant Plaza for holding the doors of the Green Line to Branch Avenue open, both cops patrolling the station go in to arrest him and pull him off the train and he starts fighting with the cops, they pull him off the train and they find a knife in his pocket
Try being a cop in a city where good chunk of the kids parents don't give a shit and are quick to threaten a lawsuit if you arrest their kid.
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And, in addition, the judicial system does nearly nothing and the kid is back on the street before the officer has attempted to paper it....
If ever get an chance just drive to the Branch Ave Yard there an either MTPD or contact guard either sleeping on post or on the phone you can just drive by anytime. Hell they stole an bus last year, maybe an rail car is next?? and 9/11 just around the corner
The people manning those posts aren't MTPD officers. They're SPOs (Special Police Officers). They are Metro employees, under the MTPD command, but not sworn police officers.

Curious? Did you bother to report it to anyone??
New to the area and seriously yall people around here are pathetic when it comes to complaining about everything. How about complaining about crooked politicians who take your money or how the economy sucks. People in other states would actually find this as boring.

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