
Unsuck DC Metro has learned that the Metro Transit Police Department has been detailing patrols, normally assigned to Virginia and Maryland, to DC in order to increase presence in pervasive trouble spots like Gallery Place and L'Enfant Plaza.
Riders we talked to had mixed feelings.
"I understand there's more crime in DC, but there have been plenty of crimes in Maryland, including a full-on brawl in Bethesda and a recent assault," said one rider. "I don't know if it's fair that the tax money I pay to Maryland goes to solving DC problems."
A rider in Virginia echoed those sentiments and wondered if criminals would just move to where the police are no longer present.
Another rider said that while they lived in Virginia, they changed trains at L'Enfant and generally agreed with the move.
A source close to the MTPD didn't criticize the move, but they wondered how Virginia and Maryland riders would feel about moving cops normally assigned to patrol Maryland and Virginia to DC.
"This is more a simple lack of resource problem," they said. "The jurisdictions need to step up and realize that if you want services you have to pay for it."
Metro would not "discuss publicly the specifics of deployment of our law enforcement resources," but added that it's important to "keep in mind that the riders of our system travel across jurisdictional lines. For example, a customer of City/County A may work in City/County B and need to pass through high crime station X, so that customer is actually benefiting."
Mary Hynes, Arlington County Board member and Virginia principal member on the Metro Board had the following to say:
The safety of riders in the system is paramount - whether it is in Virginia, DC or Maryland. Recent incidents in some of the DC stations have the potential to discourage Virginia riders from using the system to access their jobs or other activities in the city. I think that Metro police are doing the right thing to aggressively interrupt the climate that has contributed to the recent incidents.The source close to the police department said a major problem on the force is that a lot of resources are tied up at the top and are being used in ways that don't necessarily help prevent crime.
I have been assured that MTPD regular patrols in Virginia have not been reduced. It's my understanding that MTPD specialty units are being appropriately deployed to respond to this critical regional problem.
[The Metro Transit Police] have well over 420 “sworn officers” but that includes four or five Deputy Chiefs. DC police has about the same amount of deputy chiefs, and they have ten times as many officers. MTPD’s deputy chiefs sit around the office getting coffee for one another and talking about how they are doing a great job at preventing terrorism. Taborn added one a year or two ago that he calls the “executive officer.” It’s like Taborn thinks he’s running an aircraft carrier.The source wanted to add that riders should give the officers they see on patrol a break, adding that complaints that officers are sometimes seen hanging out together.
They have another 20 to 25 captains and lieutenants. Most of these are not people who are actually managing police patrol operations. Think about the money tied up in bureaucrats for such a small department A deputy chief makes about $120,000 per year.
They also have 50 sergeants. Only about 25 of them are actually involved in police work. A few more do things like run the training programs and manage the K-9 crew and the SWAT team. The others get coffee for the deputy chiefs. And they are really good at it!
But, wait, there’s more! They have about seven retired police officers who came back as civilians to do the same jobs they did as police officers, except now they get a pension AND a salary.
I dare someone to find me one workplace in the entire city where employees don’t spend a small portion of the day talking to co-workers for a few minutes- maybe about what’s going on at work, maybe about a little gossip. They are police officers, not robots. The complainers don’t seem to talk as much about the good work the officers do; instead they just complain that they saw a handful of them talking. For how long? Five minutes, even 10? Is that really that big of a deal?Other items:
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F'n JD · 729 weeks ago
Ugh · 729 weeks ago
Sam · 729 weeks ago
Bet · 729 weeks ago
This is a matter of LEADERSHIP, poor leadership.
When you have police sitting in back rooms, outside "girl watching" or eating donuts you have poor oversight!
Come on!
Corresponding Toads · 729 weeks ago
Also, Metro Center red line platform smelled like straight piss this morning. I'm lovin' it!
Guest · 729 weeks ago
Obo · 729 weeks ago
Unless you get knifed at Pentagon City.
anla4 · 729 weeks ago
anon · 729 weeks ago
Also retiared metro Transit Officers being rehired is also the case for metro Train Operators and Rail Mechanics. They recieve their full retiarment pay then are re-hired with full pay at the highest rate of pay. Is this called "double-dipping"? Not sure.
Sam · 729 weeks ago
OLR · 729 weeks ago
Sweet Bobby · 729 weeks ago
Ever and Anon · 729 weeks ago
Meredith · 729 weeks ago
Of course, in my perfect world, that lessened police presence is one officer in each station, whereas this is more likely to be one officer ever two or three stations.
Matt G · 729 weeks ago
Alex · 729 weeks ago
Sam · 729 weeks ago
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Now DC wants to tax those making over $200,000 so that cronies can drive around in fully loaded SUVs.
ANONY · 729 weeks ago
F'n JD · 729 weeks ago
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F'n JD · 729 weeks ago
Sam · 729 weeks ago
And how is suggesting that there are more chiefs than indians offensive? Is it use of the word "indian" or is it the idiom itself? Is "too many cooks in the kitchen" offensive to the culinary industry?
"HOW!" · 729 weeks ago
no one · 729 weeks ago
Ronster · 729 weeks ago
Bet · 729 weeks ago
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Sam · 729 weeks ago
While I'm sure that has changed in 2010, I am glad that Metro is focusing on the violent crime rather than things that can just be replaced. You can buy a new GPS... you can' t buy a new son/daughter.
Matt G · 729 weeks ago
Sam · 729 weeks ago
I don't understand why people are up in arms about this. You are all the same people that speak out against fare increases. If you want more police, someone has to pay for them. If you're not willing to pay for them, then you need to shuffle people around to tackle the most serious issues first.
Teddy · 729 weeks ago
Cold Ronnie · 729 weeks ago
Poor rich people, imagine how much they could have invested in Chinese labor had they received even more welfare tax breaks!
Matt G · 729 weeks ago
The goal is not to have a metro system without violent crime but your car is guaranteed to get broken into at New Carrollton. The goal is when you can feel safe leaving your car parked while you ride the system without violent crime, knowing it will be there when you get back.
I have seen many police officers doing a good job, but there are also many who do not. Light a fire under their butts to do so. Stop the pointless bag searches. These police officers are more than capable to get this situation under control. They need an effective leader, not 20 high level supervisors that pat each other on the back.
Sam · 729 weeks ago
In this case, the higher priority is someone getting killed rather than someone's GPS getting stolen from their car.
John · 729 weeks ago
Mullet · 729 weeks ago
curious george · 729 weeks ago
HurricaneDC 76p · 729 weeks ago
Anyway I agree with the move. There's way worse stuff going on in DC than in MD and VA. Yes, New Carrollton has a high property crime rate and as bad as that is, I'd rather have my car broken into than have a bunch of hoodlums beat the shit out of me for no good reason.
abc · 729 weeks ago
The little teenage gangsters don't fear the police, if they fear anything it is the courts and jail and in Virginia are courts don't buy into the whole pc game and will actually lock up these little criminals. Not to mention a lot of the riders on the blue and yellow lines who stay in Virginia are military or former military who work at the Pentagon and won't stand for this type of behavior and will jump the little teenage gangsters if they try to attack for steal from them or someone else.
frank · 729 weeks ago
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@TitaniumTate · 727 weeks ago
I currently work in probation and parole, but I'm looking to become a police officer later this year or early next year. I have wanted to work for MPD for a while. MTPD seems a bit of a mystery to me and that's why I haven't really considered applying. I think if they spent a little bit more money on advertising/recruiting it would pay off with more applicants and eventually more officers. Why would someone choose to be a MTPD officer when they could be a MPD officer? That is the question MTPD should be asking themselves and then do something to hire more officers.
@TitaniumTate · 727 weeks ago
RGJG · 727 weeks ago
Maybe try some police "forums" (officer.com?) to see what others think. Most find the job desirable. Is everything perfect? Of course not. Where _is_ everything perfect?!
As far as "congregating" goes, many times officers are placed on "details" together during certain parts of the day for "visibility." It seemed to work with you!! In the old days, people complained how they _never_ saw an officer.